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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2010/01/19/on-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian: Zing!</description>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2010/01/19/on-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously it&#039;s done for convenience.

It&#039;s easier to cling to guns and religion when you only have to hold one object.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously it&#8217;s done for convenience.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easier to cling to guns and religion when you only have to hold one object.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2010/01/19/on-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I am not religiously affiliated with any one god or another.

That being said can I get my scope with EZ25:17 in the serial number????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I am not religiously affiliated with any one god or another.</p>
<p>That being said can I get my scope with EZ25:17 in the serial number????</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2010/01/19/on-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1216</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The motivations are very similar to why people open carry. Is it effective at the purpose many promote as a reason to practice? Does it matter? This is religion we&#039;re talking about here. The faith must be spread to the unbelievers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The motivations are very similar to why people open carry. Is it effective at the purpose many promote as a reason to practice? Does it matter? This is religion we&#8217;re talking about here. The faith must be spread to the unbelievers.</p>
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		<title>By: ExurbanKevin</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2010/01/19/on-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>ExurbanKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To answer your footnotes: 

&lt;i&gt;A question I want to ask to the guy who stands around on the street corner with a “Jesus Is Lord” sign — are his daily sign-holding efforts paying off? Has his work changed the mind of anyone? &lt;/i&gt;

Whether or not anyone &quot;Comes to Jesus&quot; is secondary to such people. The point is (for them) is to convict others of their sin, but more importantly, proclaim their own righteousness to the world, and any criticism of their preaching is further proof of their (self-) righteousness. Personally, I don&#039;t see the point of going to the street corners to condemn the world of it&#039;s sin. The world is already condemned: It&#039;s been that way since the fall of Man, so why would anyone want to add to what God has already done Himself? 

&lt;i&gt;“Mission: To glorify God as we supply our customers worldwide with top quality, value-priced batteries…” 
“Our mission is to provide quality propellants, other products, and services to sportsmen, governing units, and other businesses in a manner which enhances the quality of life for our stockholders, employees, customers, associates, and suppliers. In doing so, we will deal with integrity and honesty, reflecting that people are more important than dollars and that our purpose is to bring credit to our Lord Jesus Christ.” &lt;/i&gt;

I look at this (and In N Out, et al) as an extension of the Shaker ethic, and that extends from 1 Corinthians 10:31, &quot;So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. &quot;, so it&#039;s no longer me doing a good job at what I do because I want to do a good job, I do a good job because in doing so, I bring glory to God. 

Now, that being said, I don&#039;t eat at In N Out because they have Bible verses on their shake cups, I eat their &#039;cause I like Double-Doubles. :). No amount of Bible verses can make up for a lousy product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your footnotes: </p>
<p><i>A question I want to ask to the guy who stands around on the street corner with a “Jesus Is Lord” sign — are his daily sign-holding efforts paying off? Has his work changed the mind of anyone? </i></p>
<p>Whether or not anyone &#8220;Comes to Jesus&#8221; is secondary to such people. The point is (for them) is to convict others of their sin, but more importantly, proclaim their own righteousness to the world, and any criticism of their preaching is further proof of their (self-) righteousness. Personally, I don&#8217;t see the point of going to the street corners to condemn the world of it&#8217;s sin. The world is already condemned: It&#8217;s been that way since the fall of Man, so why would anyone want to add to what God has already done Himself? </p>
<p><i>“Mission: To glorify God as we supply our customers worldwide with top quality, value-priced batteries…”<br />
“Our mission is to provide quality propellants, other products, and services to sportsmen, governing units, and other businesses in a manner which enhances the quality of life for our stockholders, employees, customers, associates, and suppliers. In doing so, we will deal with integrity and honesty, reflecting that people are more important than dollars and that our purpose is to bring credit to our Lord Jesus Christ.” </i></p>
<p>I look at this (and In N Out, et al) as an extension of the Shaker ethic, and that extends from 1 Corinthians 10:31, &#8220;So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God. &#8220;, so it&#8217;s no longer me doing a good job at what I do because I want to do a good job, I do a good job because in doing so, I bring glory to God. </p>
<p>Now, that being said, I don&#8217;t eat at In N Out because they have Bible verses on their shake cups, I eat their &#8217;cause I like Double-Doubles. <img src='http://www.arizonarifleman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . No amount of Bible verses can make up for a lousy product.</p>
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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Thanks for the response.

Sean: It doesn&#039;t have to be militant atheists who do the complaining; it could be a member of any of the numerous other religions out there.

Using the gay couple example, there might well be whining, both from people opposed to homosexuality for whatever reason, and then by others who don&#039;t really think it&#039;s something that should be put on a gun sight (or whatever product) any more than a note saying the owner of the company is straight.

Personally, I really don&#039;t care either way, but I find it a bit weird for companies as diverse as gun sight makers, burger chains, distributors of batteries, airlines, and gunpowder makers to be putting such stuff on their products. I&#039;d think the same thing if they were putting any other religious symbolism on their products as well. Doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;ll stop buying their products or services, just that I think it&#039;s a bit weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Thanks for the response.</p>
<p>Sean: It doesn&#8217;t have to be militant atheists who do the complaining; it could be a member of any of the numerous other religions out there.</p>
<p>Using the gay couple example, there might well be whining, both from people opposed to homosexuality for whatever reason, and then by others who don&#8217;t really think it&#8217;s something that should be put on a gun sight (or whatever product) any more than a note saying the owner of the company is straight.</p>
<p>Personally, I really don&#8217;t care either way, but I find it a bit weird for companies as diverse as gun sight makers, burger chains, distributors of batteries, airlines, and gunpowder makers to be putting such stuff on their products. I&#8217;d think the same thing if they were putting any other religious symbolism on their products as well. Doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;ll stop buying their products or services, just that I think it&#8217;s a bit weird.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a) for some Christian sects, it is good or a requirement to proselytize
b) actions have consequences, they realize this and are prepared to accept possible loss of business, because they see a greater reward down the road</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a) for some Christian sects, it is good or a requirement to proselytize<br />
b) actions have consequences, they realize this and are prepared to accept possible loss of business, because they see a greater reward down the road</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Sorrentino</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2010/01/19/on-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Sorrentino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fairly non-religious guy (I&#039;m nominally Christian, and culturally Catholic, but not at all a church goer) i&#039;ll take a stab at this one. 

This is who they are. they are under no obligation to hide their identity. moreover, they realize almost no one cares what their religion is. at least not enough to refuse to purchase their products. there will be a few people who will not buy, and an even fewer number who will make total asses out of themselves bitching about it, but lets face it. who looks stupider, the Christian gun sight manufacturer or the militant atheist wackjobs complaining that &quot;JN8:12&quot; lettering on the ACOG of that sharpshooter who just blasted a jihadi is adding insult to injury?

Now if Trijicon was run by a gay couple, and they put a tiny rainbow flag on their gunsights, would there be any whining? no. They&#039;d be hailed as heros. 

I buy the best product i can, for the money i can spend. unless i believe that the guy i am paying is actually on the other side, i don&#039;t care if there is a picture of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fairly non-religious guy (I&#8217;m nominally Christian, and culturally Catholic, but not at all a church goer) i&#8217;ll take a stab at this one. </p>
<p>This is who they are. they are under no obligation to hide their identity. moreover, they realize almost no one cares what their religion is. at least not enough to refuse to purchase their products. there will be a few people who will not buy, and an even fewer number who will make total asses out of themselves bitching about it, but lets face it. who looks stupider, the Christian gun sight manufacturer or the militant atheist wackjobs complaining that &#8220;JN8:12&#8243; lettering on the ACOG of that sharpshooter who just blasted a jihadi is adding insult to injury?</p>
<p>Now if Trijicon was run by a gay couple, and they put a tiny rainbow flag on their gunsights, would there be any whining? no. They&#8217;d be hailed as heros. </p>
<p>I buy the best product i can, for the money i can spend. unless i believe that the guy i am paying is actually on the other side, i don&#8217;t care if there is a picture of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Starr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect some Christians, probably including me, view this similarly to John Quincy Adams, who fought a long anti-slavery battle in the U.S. House of Representatives, with no encouraging signs for a long time. He said:

&quot;Duty is ours; results are God&#039;s.&quot;

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/duty_is_ours-results_are_god/192339.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect some Christians, probably including me, view this similarly to John Quincy Adams, who fought a long anti-slavery battle in the U.S. House of Representatives, with no encouraging signs for a long time. He said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Duty is ours; results are God&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
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