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	<title>Comments on: Spam Fighting</title>
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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2009/01/16/spam-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick followup: BB has stopped two spammers already, one even being as blunt as submitting his spam directly as POST operation to the comments script. Interesting.

This seems promising so far, though I wish they&#039;d have an option for displaying spam details in a web-based log, rather than requiring I look at the SQL database.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick followup: BB has stopped two spammers already, one even being as blunt as submitting his spam directly as POST operation to the comments script. Interesting.</p>
<p>This seems promising so far, though I wish they&#8217;d have an option for displaying spam details in a web-based log, rather than requiring I look at the SQL database.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2009/01/16/spam-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I end up with only 2-3 spams in Akismet per week now. Before Akismet was catching 200-300 spam comments a week and maybe 10 would actually get through. Post a follow up on how it goes.

As far as I know BB looks at the actual HTTP request and runs it against common spam profiles like bogus user agents and IP addresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I end up with only 2-3 spams in Akismet per week now. Before Akismet was catching 200-300 spam comments a week and maybe 10 would actually get through. Post a follow up on how it goes.</p>
<p>As far as I know BB looks at the actual HTTP request and runs it against common spam profiles like bogus user agents and IP addresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2009/01/16/spam-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I wish Bad Behavior went into more detail as to how, precisely, it works. I see that it can query the http:BL, which is cool, but otherwise the details on their website are a bit fuzzy.

Do you have any more details on how Bad Behavior works? Perhaps I&#039;m missing something on their site and am just being tardful.

I&#039;ll give BB a shot, so to speak.

I&#039;ve had really good luck in the past with YAWASP, which replaces the normal form field names (&quot;author&quot;, &quot;url&quot;, etc.) with randomized text every 24 hours. Since these fields change all the time, the theory is that spammers can&#039;t adapt. It also has a hidden field that shouldn&#039;t be filled, but which spammers often fill. There&#039;s no visual or functional difference to humans. Recently, however, I&#039;ve been getting a few more spams that are able to make it past the randomized fields, but still fail in some other way that results in their messages getting dropped to the spam queue.

Ideally, any method of blocking spammers that I employ would allow for the spammer (and their spam) to be submitted to Akismet, so that others can benefit from my detection of spammers.

I understand that CAPTCHAs are a little annoying and time consuming, but I&#039;ve found that reCAPTCHA is considerably less so than things like the CAPTCHAs on Blogger. The fact that one can easily refresh the CAPTCHA if the words are illegible is a plus as well.

I&#039;ll disable reCAPTCHA for the time being and let BB run for a week or so. Hopefully it can catch some bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. I wish Bad Behavior went into more detail as to how, precisely, it works. I see that it can query the http:BL, which is cool, but otherwise the details on their website are a bit fuzzy.</p>
<p>Do you have any more details on how Bad Behavior works? Perhaps I&#8217;m missing something on their site and am just being tardful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give BB a shot, so to speak.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had really good luck in the past with YAWASP, which replaces the normal form field names (&#8220;author&#8221;, &#8220;url&#8221;, etc.) with randomized text every 24 hours. Since these fields change all the time, the theory is that spammers can&#8217;t adapt. It also has a hidden field that shouldn&#8217;t be filled, but which spammers often fill. There&#8217;s no visual or functional difference to humans. Recently, however, I&#8217;ve been getting a few more spams that are able to make it past the randomized fields, but still fail in some other way that results in their messages getting dropped to the spam queue.</p>
<p>Ideally, any method of blocking spammers that I employ would allow for the spammer (and their spam) to be submitted to Akismet, so that others can benefit from my detection of spammers.</p>
<p>I understand that CAPTCHAs are a little annoying and time consuming, but I&#8217;ve found that reCAPTCHA is considerably less so than things like the CAPTCHAs on Blogger. The fact that one can easily refresh the CAPTCHA if the words are illegible is a plus as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll disable reCAPTCHA for the time being and let BB run for a week or so. Hopefully it can catch some bad guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2009/01/16/spam-fighting/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bad-behavior/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bad Behavior&lt;/a&gt;. Been using it on my Wordpress install for over a year now and it stops spam before it even gets submitted. 99% of spam is coming from bots and the plugin can identify those bogus submissions since they don&#039;t actually come from the comment form.

Give it a try before you resort to a CAPTCHA, it would deter me from posting comments. I had to refresh the reCAPTCHA 4 times to get one I could read.

I publish a few Wordpress plugins (My Link Order, My Page Order and My Category Order) and have been using it for 3 years now so hit me up if you have any questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words, <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/bad-behavior/" rel="nofollow">Bad Behavior</a>. Been using it on my WordPress install for over a year now and it stops spam before it even gets submitted. 99% of spam is coming from bots and the plugin can identify those bogus submissions since they don&#8217;t actually come from the comment form.</p>
<p>Give it a try before you resort to a CAPTCHA, it would deter me from posting comments. I had to refresh the reCAPTCHA 4 times to get one I could read.</p>
<p>I publish a few WordPress plugins (My Link Order, My Page Order and My Category Order) and have been using it for 3 years now so hit me up if you have any questions.</p>
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