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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2008/05/15/full-auto-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;d love to get an SOT, but I have a small apartment (not a business, no room for inventory or transfers for customers), not much money, and no time.

Maybe when I have some more time, money, and space.

I&#039;ve seen plenty of AC-556s. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.davidspiwak.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This guy&lt;/a&gt; seems to sell a whole bunch at reasonable prices.

Saving money on pre-samples would be nice, but I would certainly hope that the majority of the items on your list would be available even cheaper as post-samples (though I couldn&#039;t keep them if I give up the FFL). $1,000 for a post-sample M16 is certainly better than $11,000 for a pre-sample. I&#039;d have to have the SOT for 20 years before it wasn&#039;t worthwhile...and even then, the purchase of another post-sample MG or two would make it even more cost-effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;d love to get an SOT, but I have a small apartment (not a business, no room for inventory or transfers for customers), not much money, and no time.</p>
<p>Maybe when I have some more time, money, and space.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen plenty of AC-556s. <a href="http://www.davidspiwak.com/" rel="nofollow">This guy</a> seems to sell a whole bunch at reasonable prices.</p>
<p>Saving money on pre-samples would be nice, but I would certainly hope that the majority of the items on your list would be available even cheaper as post-samples (though I couldn&#8217;t keep them if I give up the FFL). $1,000 for a post-sample M16 is certainly better than $11,000 for a pre-sample. I&#8217;d have to have the SOT for 20 years before it wasn&#8217;t worthwhile&#8230;and even then, the purchase of another post-sample MG or two would make it even more cost-effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2008/05/15/full-auto-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be a hater.  I paid a $200.00 tax once and then decided to become a SOT to make this hobby into a viable business that pays for itself.

You&#039;ve got the love and the drive.  Get your own SOT and join the party!  

Incidentally, do you know what it&#039;d to to your MG prices?

1. Grease Gun: $12-$15k transferable falls to $7k pre-sample.

2. Uzi: $7k transferable falls to $3.5k pre-sample.

3. M16 RR: $10k off brand transferable falls to $11k factory Colt M16A1.  (Note that these are RARE, though.)

4. M16 DIAS: Transferable only.

5. M16 LL: Transferable only.

6. AC-556: While I&#039;ve heard rumors that such guns exist, I&#039;ve yet to verify.  Transferable only.

7. MP-5 RR: $12-$15k transferable falls to $8k.

8. MP-5 sear/registered pack: Transferable only.

9. Sterling SMG or a Stenling (Sten coverted into a Sterling):  $9k Sterling falls to $6k and $6k Sten falls to $4k.

10. AUG: $15k transferable falls to $10k.

11. FNC: While I&#039;ve heard rumors that such guns exist, I&#039;ve yet to verify.  Transferable only.

12. STG: Transferable only.

13.  Yes, lucky 13.  Like beltfed?  How about a pre-sample MG-34 or 1919 for $12k?

The way I figure, you can&#039;t afford to NOT get your SOT.  Look, you&#039;re a hell of a lot brighter than me.  If *I* can do it, so can you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be a hater.  I paid a $200.00 tax once and then decided to become a SOT to make this hobby into a viable business that pays for itself.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got the love and the drive.  Get your own SOT and join the party!  </p>
<p>Incidentally, do you know what it&#8217;d to to your MG prices?</p>
<p>1. Grease Gun: $12-$15k transferable falls to $7k pre-sample.</p>
<p>2. Uzi: $7k transferable falls to $3.5k pre-sample.</p>
<p>3. M16 RR: $10k off brand transferable falls to $11k factory Colt M16A1.  (Note that these are RARE, though.)</p>
<p>4. M16 DIAS: Transferable only.</p>
<p>5. M16 LL: Transferable only.</p>
<p>6. AC-556: While I&#8217;ve heard rumors that such guns exist, I&#8217;ve yet to verify.  Transferable only.</p>
<p>7. MP-5 RR: $12-$15k transferable falls to $8k.</p>
<p>8. MP-5 sear/registered pack: Transferable only.</p>
<p>9. Sterling SMG or a Stenling (Sten coverted into a Sterling):  $9k Sterling falls to $6k and $6k Sten falls to $4k.</p>
<p>10. AUG: $15k transferable falls to $10k.</p>
<p>11. FNC: While I&#8217;ve heard rumors that such guns exist, I&#8217;ve yet to verify.  Transferable only.</p>
<p>12. STG: Transferable only.</p>
<p>13.  Yes, lucky 13.  Like beltfed?  How about a pre-sample MG-34 or 1919 for $12k?</p>
<p>The way I figure, you can&#8217;t afford to NOT get your SOT.  Look, you&#8217;re a hell of a lot brighter than me.  If *I* can do it, so can you!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (in the video)</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2008/05/15/full-auto-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (in the video)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That WAS a good time, and it was my last weekend in Arizona.  I still have fond memories of that day in the mountains.

One thing, though.  Two tax gun?  I don&#039;t pay no stinkin&#039; taxes!  :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That WAS a good time, and it was my last weekend in Arizona.  I still have fond memories of that day in the mountains.</p>
<p>One thing, though.  Two tax gun?  I don&#8217;t pay no stinkin&#8217; taxes!  :-p</p>
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		<title>By: Cowboy Blob</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2008/05/15/full-auto-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowboy Blob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be more than happy to mentor you.  It&#039;ll be a good excuse to get out of Range Safety Officer duties :)  

Have you ever been out to the Pima Pistol Club range in Catalina?  Tomorrow morning, we&#039;re getting together for our monthly match; Rob and I should both be there (he designed a killer stage for us).  If you&#039;re never seen a practical match before, I recommend you come watch.  If you&#039;d like to try it, I&#039;ll squad with you and teach you the ropes.  Safety, of course, is paramount and if you&#039;ve never been &quot;under the clock&quot; before, don&#039;t worry about speed... you&#039;ll get faster with practice and experience.

The ACTS format is a bit more advanced than 3-Gun or IPSC: we allow backwards movement and &quot;hot&quot; reholstering and sometimes require you to sling your safetied rifle and continue the course of fire with pistol.  I recommend a good retention sling.  As you&#039;ll see from the rules at the link below, they&#039;ve got some fussy equipment restrictions, but (except for safety) we&#039;re very forgiving of first-timers (and if you show up to watch only, that won&#039;t could as your first time).   

http://www.actshooters.com/rules.html

Do you already have a &quot;tactical&quot; rifle and pistol?  Sling and holster?

If you have high-speed internet, check out footage at my YouTube account:

http://www.youtube.com/user/cowboyblob

Also, I often post the Cactus League (3rd Sunday) 3-Gun Match stage descriptions that I design, so surf my blog archives if you&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be more than happy to mentor you.  It&#8217;ll be a good excuse to get out of Range Safety Officer duties <img src='http://www.arizonarifleman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Have you ever been out to the Pima Pistol Club range in Catalina?  Tomorrow morning, we&#8217;re getting together for our monthly match; Rob and I should both be there (he designed a killer stage for us).  If you&#8217;re never seen a practical match before, I recommend you come watch.  If you&#8217;d like to try it, I&#8217;ll squad with you and teach you the ropes.  Safety, of course, is paramount and if you&#8217;ve never been &#8220;under the clock&#8221; before, don&#8217;t worry about speed&#8230; you&#8217;ll get faster with practice and experience.</p>
<p>The ACTS format is a bit more advanced than 3-Gun or IPSC: we allow backwards movement and &#8220;hot&#8221; reholstering and sometimes require you to sling your safetied rifle and continue the course of fire with pistol.  I recommend a good retention sling.  As you&#8217;ll see from the rules at the link below, they&#8217;ve got some fussy equipment restrictions, but (except for safety) we&#8217;re very forgiving of first-timers (and if you show up to watch only, that won&#8217;t could as your first time).   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.actshooters.com/rules.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.actshooters.com/rules.html</a></p>
<p>Do you already have a &#8220;tactical&#8221; rifle and pistol?  Sling and holster?</p>
<p>If you have high-speed internet, check out footage at my YouTube account:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/cowboyblob" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/cowboyblob</a></p>
<p>Also, I often post the Cactus League (3rd Sunday) 3-Gun Match stage descriptions that I design, so surf my blog archives if you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Flash Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2008/05/15/full-auto-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  It&#039;s good to know that the forest ranger was friendly, and a female at that.  Except for David Young, rangers aren&#039;t always gun friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  It&#8217;s good to know that the forest ranger was friendly, and a female at that.  Except for David Young, rangers aren&#8217;t always gun friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.arizonarifleman.com/2008/05/15/full-auto-fun/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s &quot;You Ain&#039;t Seen Nothing Yet&quot; by the Bachman-Turner Overdrive.

And yes, all the M16s were 5.56mm/.223 Rem. There were no 7.62mm/.30 caliber rifles there that day at all.

We did have some suppressed 10/22s (not shown in the video) that day as well, including a two-tax &quot;pocket rifle&quot; (suppressed SBR 10/22 with a folding stock). 

Amusingly enough, a National Forest Ranger came out to say hi, asked us to clean up our brass, and bid us good day. She also gave us some Smokey The Bear keychains, which I still have. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s &#8220;You Ain&#8217;t Seen Nothing Yet&#8221; by the Bachman-Turner Overdrive.</p>
<p>And yes, all the M16s were 5.56mm/.223 Rem. There were no 7.62mm/.30 caliber rifles there that day at all.</p>
<p>We did have some suppressed 10/22s (not shown in the video) that day as well, including a two-tax &#8220;pocket rifle&#8221; (suppressed SBR 10/22 with a folding stock). </p>
<p>Amusingly enough, a National Forest Ranger came out to say hi, asked us to clean up our brass, and bid us good day. She also gave us some Smokey The Bear keychains, which I still have. <img src='http://www.arizonarifleman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Flash Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flash Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please post the title and artist of the tune at the end of the video.  
also, are all the M16&#039;s in .556 caliber?  One sounded a bit like it might be .762 Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please post the title and artist of the tune at the end of the video.<br />
also, are all the M16&#8242;s in .556 caliber?  One sounded a bit like it might be .762 Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Arizona Rifleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arizona Rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas, I haven&#039;t tried practical competition, but I&#039;d love to do so.

It may sound silly, but I generally don&#039;t like just &quot;showing up&quot; to something without having someone to introduce me. Go figure. Perhaps I could trouble you to introduce me sometime? That&#039;d be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, I haven&#8217;t tried practical competition, but I&#8217;d love to do so.</p>
<p>It may sound silly, but I generally don&#8217;t like just &#8220;showing up&#8221; to something without having someone to introduce me. Go figure. Perhaps I could trouble you to introduce me sometime? That&#8217;d be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowboy Blob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cowboy Blob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome!  Have you ever tried practical competition?  I divide my time between 3-Gun up at Ben Avery (4th Sundays usually) and tactical rifle+pistol at Pima (3rd Saturdays).  Rob shows up at the Pima matches now and then.  They&#039;re both a lot of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome!  Have you ever tried practical competition?  I divide my time between 3-Gun up at Ben Avery (4th Sundays usually) and tactical rifle+pistol at Pima (3rd Saturdays).  Rob shows up at the Pima matches now and then.  They&#8217;re both a lot of fun.</p>
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